i didn't suggest it was a code word for black, i accepted at face value the assertion that it was a code word for dismissing african americans, in essence, continuing the racial profiling that blacks are inherently inferior (and intellectually bereft).  feel free to argue otherwise, if you have any insight into this (although i assume you don't)...

It's not code for black but is percieved as a racial epithet when targeted at a black man, by some, for legitimate reasons.

emphasis on 'by some'.

No. You don't have to be a Racist to the bone to use racial stereotypes against someone. You just have to be a real jerk.

But is that the game some of his supporters like to play? I believe he'll play this game himself in the end.

but is this something that you pay attention to?

Yeah you know they didn't have that initial reaction thats the way I think most people view it , its a hail mary attempt.

get lost.

Watch the show georgep.  Again, I don't believe this about Clinton, it never crossed my mind, until the caller talked to Cummings.  Will it mean anything?  I don't know, doubt it.  I think this is politics 101.  But again, you can not dismiss a old black woman, who was angered about what Clinton said.  

it's funny, because now that i live in chicago, i'm completely uncomfortable with the amount of overt racism i find here (and i'm white).  in florida, especially, but in most of the south where i've worked, institutional racism persisted but individual racism was hidden from view.  it was largely unacceptable in polite society (perhaps to save the last remnants of institutional racism, because the powers that be liked the benefits).  up here, it's just the opposite.  institutional racism is far less than in the south, but individual racism is much evident all around.

what's even more surprising to me, despite this, white liberals here -- and even more in the case where icebergslim lives -- believe that racism doesn't exist up here, presumably because institutional racism has been reduced.  using words that are perceived as denigrating by people should be acknowledged (i know, i know, hillary can't apologize -- she just can't).  now, i don't mean to hurt george's feelings when i call him an idiot, i only mean to describe my assessment of his intellectual capacity.  he may or may not take offense at that.  but i can certainly be called onto the carpet for being insensitive to how he feels about that.  in this case, that was largely the point...

Of course not. This is more along the lines of

"Well, now that you mention it......"

And I have to tell ya. I agree with Tarheel. The more I research this and look at it from a historical and not a political perspective, I'm seeing where it's justified that Hillary's comment is borderline racist in the eyes of older Blacks. We didn't get it at first because we are from a different generation, but when some History is thrown in there, WOAH.

So, not cool.

At the debate, Edwards also didn't present any justification for raising it to $9.50.  He stated the challenge without any explanation of the principles or circumstances which justify and support it.  

I'm in favor of raising the minimum wage but I didn't hear why $9.50 by 2012 would be the right combination -- why not $8.50 or $10.50 or $20, or why not 2010 or 2015, etc, etc.  I wanted to hear this, not just for my own edification but for the issue to be advanced.

Oh please. On Clinton's use of naive?

It would be ENTIRELY manufactured.

It does not exist now.

A better argument can be made with "irresponsible."

You must be insulated from the realities of a large portion of our society that are in fact living in the discriminatory remnants of a 3/5th society which leaves many many of them ,disproportionately with out an education beyond grade school.

The legacy of seemingly unbiased terminology having profound effects in perpetuating racial discrimination is very real and very much known to those effected. Acknowledgement of such is not 'playing up the race card'. Some will not shy from espressing the question of percieved offense, and our responsibility to be sensative to it.

What "most people draw" conclusions about is never really the question to be asked when discussing racism, is it?

Please read my post above about the difference between acknowledging race relation realities and 'playing the race card'.

Um, icebergslim seemed to ENDORSE the view expressed.

Please.   This is a ridiculous track to pursue.  It is not legitimate to now play the racist card, as if there were ANY racist elements about Clinton's comments.   I thought better of you, psericks.   If every comment from a caller into CSPAN was elevated here, we would have diary upon diary on just that.   What a disgusting track for you to pursue.   Sure to be yet another loser for Obama, but his fans don't realize it, which makes many of them "naive."  

Right.... so we should just IGNORE the implied RACISM icebergslim so cleverly stated. New kind of politics my ass. This is the most disgusting form of politics. Interesting how Obama has embraced Reagan... and now these quaint little racist jabs that can so easily be explained away and denied.

Actually your headline says it all yeah " you missed it totally" because IT WASN"T THERE . All you attempted to do here is to stir up a controversy and to use race as your basis of doing it is very despicable. " Older Black Woman" - clear race baiting.